Rising Above Risk: High-Rise Safety Tips with Adele Bayless

Safety First, Not Sexy? Think Again – High-Rise Survival with Adele Bayless

What do high-rises, fire safety, and your lizard brain have in common? They could all save your life—or make you Netflix-scroll through an alarm. In this rare and riveting episode, I sit down with Adele Bayless, an L.A. Fire Department-certified high-rise consultant with over 30 years of experience in fire safety and emergency planning. Adele brings the real talk, busting misconceptions and teaching you how to turn safety into your superpower, no cape required.

From the hidden dangers of ignoring smoke alarms (spoiler: smoke is the real villain) to practical tips on fire blankets, go-bags, and escape ladders, Adele lays out what everyone in a high-rise or apartment needs to know—but probably doesn’t ask. We cover questions you should be asking your landlord, drills you need to actually do, and why you should always know where the exit is (hint: lizard brain isn’t your friend in a crisis).

Plus, Adele’s no-nonsense humor makes safety anything but boring. You'll walk away motivated, a little more prepared, and ready to reclaim your peace of mind, whether you’re in a luxury penthouse or a studio walk-up.

Because safety isn’t about fear—it’s about freedom. So let’s get to it. Press play and bring sexy back to safety.

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Rising Above Risk: High-Rise Safety Tips with Adele Bayless
Kellene: [00:00:00] Welcome to Preparedness Pro, where being prepared isn't about fear. It's about freedom. I'm your host, Kellene, and every episode we explore the peaceful principles of preparedness and self reliance. No gloom, no doom, just practical solutions for everyday living that help you become more independent and prepared for whatever life brings your way.
From kitchen skills to financial wisdom, emergency planning to sustainable living. We're building a community of capable, confident people who understand that preparedness isn't about preparing for the worst. It's about being free to live your best life regardless of what comes your way. So whether you're starting your preparedness journey or you're a seasoned pro, you're in the right place.
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Hi, it's Kellene the preparedness pro. I've got another great episode for you today. One that I suspect that you have never heard of. I have got Adele Bayless with us today. Let me tell you a little bit about Adele. She has some very unique talents. , , I had to [00:01:00] search pretty hard to find somebody with this kind of expertise.
She's a seasoned expert. in high rise management in fire and life safety and emergency planning. She's got over 30 years of experience across these diverse sectors and she's currently an LA fire department certified high rise consultant. This is a rare distinction. It grants her authority to conduct high rise emergency system tests, certify evacuation drills, fire safety directors, conduct tenant and staff training, and she authors emergency plans and manuals.
So Adele, thank you for your unique expertise and perspective that you're going to bring to us today. Thanks for coming 
Adele: on. Oh, it is my pleasure. I'm absolutely happy to be here. I'm always excited to talk about safety Safety is not the sexiest of things right now, particularly, or anytime really, but we have to take it seriously.
And I loved when you reached out to me. So thank you very much. [00:02:00] 
Kellene: We're going to bring sexy back to safety here today. Okay, let's do it. So I'm curious of all the things that you could grow up and be what initially drew you to specialize in high rise and fire safety management. so much.
Adele: Really interesting question because almost no one who goes into commercial property management intends to go into property man, commercial property management.
It's kind of one of those things. Oh, people fall into it. It's the number of audiences I've been in front of. And I asked the question, how many of you plan to go into property management? One or two hands go up. It's one of the. Really hidden gems of our society, facility and property managers. We make spaces work.
That's what we do. Different kinds of spaces, office spaces, apartment spaces, hotel spaces, data center spaces, industrial spaces, almost everything 
 
Adele: So almost everything Is run by a [00:03:00] professional, either facility manager or property manager. And what we do is we paint the walls and we pay the bills and we make sure that the facility is safe for you.
That's it's part of our credo. We have, a standard of care with safety. We have to think about the public. We have to think about our tenants and our occupants. So when I started, , I actually, Answered an ad. If you can believe it back in the day, I go back that far when ads used to be in the newspaper, you actually had to go and look it up and then you had to send your resume or call and whatever.
It's unbelievable. That's the way we used to get jobs for everybody out there. And I was, I thought I was going to be a secretary. I'd been doing secretary on and facilities and, and filing. I worked with law firms and so I thought it was the same thing. Turned out to be a property management office.
She kind of said, do you know what we do? And I'm like, no, but I found out [00:04:00] when one weekend we did some work for a tenant to improve their space. And she, I had no idea what this was about, but on Friday, the space looked one way, And on Monday, it looked another and for someone who came from a legal background where it's mounds of paper, and I think a lot of workers feel that way where what are we doing?
It's like we're on. We're on a habit trail or something, right? We're going in circles. So I got to this place. It was like, Oh, my God. We do something concrete. So that's really what drew me into property management. What drew me into fire safety within property management is because I was, that was my duty of care.
I had to find someone to train my staff and to train my occupants and they were boring. I paid, you know, a lot of money. I can't remember what it was at the time. This was over 15 years ago, but I was saw my tenants scrolling and reading and falling asleep or needing to go to meetings. And I realized the information that they were imparting was very [00:05:00] important.
So I said, Oh, I can do this. And voila, here we are 15 years later. 
Kellene: There you are. And you're definitely not boring that your personality is not allowed for boring. 
Adele: No. And, and, you know, That's part. I mean, that is my secret sauce is me. It's not anything else other than the way I'm putting together and I think about things because we allow in the world.
We do allow kind of specialized experts to take over in a lot of areas, which we need nuclear scientists. You probably need to be, you know, pretty good and safety. You need to be good as well. We've let the security industry and kind of take over that realm of safety. We equate it with crime. Life safety has an element.
 We address active shooters. We address, crime. For instance, in California, we have a new workplace violence, statute that every business needs to adhere to., we've seeded that space [00:06:00] and I wanted managers to take the power back and to connect with their tenants because this information is very important.
And what I saw was the way I could get my tenants to buy into my program was to give them information about safety in all aspects of their life. So when I present, I'm ostensibly, I'm telling you about this big piece of glass and steel behind me. But really what I'm doing is to try to get everybody into a safety mindset.
That's what I call it. Get there. My first question, no matter what the training when it's life safety, because I do give other trainings. It is, I want everybody who wants to live. And I dressed up my hand really high in the air and inevitably I'm the only one, right? Nobody else gets this. I kind of come in hot and I go, nobody, I go, everybody get your hand up because I know you want to live.
And then I frame everything I say about wanting to live. And the fact that no one, but yourself is going to save you. [00:07:00] 
Kellene: So would you say that's the most common misconception about high rise safety that residents need to is it's not someone else helping them. They've got to take care of it themselves.
Adele: Absolutely high rises. So in my office building, I had apartment buildings and one of the things I had to do is I didn't have very many of them. So I was lucky in that sense, but you can carve out. I'm from Los Angeles, Los Angeles, along with the city of New York has some of the most forward thinking ideas on life safety.
Mostly due to 9 11, and I, I use 9 11 as an example frequently in my trainings because I want to tell people, I want to remind them what happened, how people didn't know what to do, and people weren't evacuating, and that's a common problem that I'd seen as a property manager. What happens is, and this happens, and this really happens in apartment buildings, because if you think about it, an office building is very safe.
Extremely [00:08:00] safe because if we've got, ovens or stoves, we've got special equipment. We take care of it. We test it every year. We go, , we test our power. We test our people. We train. That's what we do mostly because what office money, right? For me, why aren't we spending money? On the residents and apartments.
There's a lot. There was a large fire that happened here in Los Angeles about 12 years ago. It's called the Barrington fire, and it was a watershed in residential fires for the L. A. F. D. They had been ahead on the office, but. What has quietly unacknowledged is that residential does not get the same amount of tension as the commercial does on the commercial side.
Hotels have a different, so they, they're slightly different. I train them differently than I train apartments than I train offices. But the basic idea is that every person needs to know what to do. That's number one. You have to know what to [00:09:00] do once you know what to do. And what I remind people is we get a lizard brain, right?
I say, we have lizard brains and we need to do as what would happen because what we see in apartments and in office buildings is we see what we, what people like to call the false alarm thing, right? There's an alarm going off somewhere. You're watching your Netflix or cooking your linguine and your ramen.
And you're like, what? That happens all the time. Okay. And you ignore it, right? This is, that is the mindset that gets people killed. And I have to remind, and I talk to them about simple things about fears. I want your fear of fire. Everyone's afraid they're going to die in a fire. And I tell them very few people actually die in fires.
And then I tell them about smoke and how dangerous smoke is, what they have to do when there's the presence of smoke in the, in what I've found, particularly with apartment buildings that I find Just mind boggling. There's so much technology that we have. This world is given us [00:10:00] so many tools and we are not really.
Focusing , our brain power on using tools to save lives. There are so many ways that there could be new training delivered to residents that we as a society would take safety seriously because people tend to want to think that it's only the nine 11s and the big earthquakes and the Malibu fires. And you know, that hits .
Such a small amount of people it's, but it is not that which kills people day in and day out. I am interested in what, how people can be safe, not thinking about it because they have their safety mindset. So water leaks, fires that can become larger, all of the electronics and computers that we use that are so dangerous.
All of those things, these, the lithium batteries, can we talk about those exploding for no reason? What are you going to do? So there's all kinds of things we don't, nobody tells apartment [00:11:00] building, dwellers. Do you have fire extinguishers? Because you think, oh, the building's going to take care of it.
Well, are you going to jump outside of your apartment building in the middle of a fire to go get something, get one of those fire blankets I have extinguishers and I have that right near my stove and I can take it when I'm outside on the grill.
People don't think about the grill because they think it's cheesy. If you have an extinguisher next to you while you're being cool on your grill, I think it's so much cooler. to have a cool fire extinguisher or a blanket as you are, you know, you're feeding all the people. And so that's really what I don't want people to think that safety is this big thing that they have to, Oh my God, I have to do all this stuff.
No, you can do it within the confines of your daily life. You buy a little bit extra, you just kind of build it in. You have a go bag. These are things that apartment dwellers should have, house dwellers should have. If your house dweller was two floors, do you have a ladder, a safety ladder? I [00:12:00] had one. The other thing I want to tell people, because when I talk to people in my life, you know, and I'm not like, Hi, I'm a safety person.
Inevitably, if I start talking about it, they'll be like, Oh my gosh. You do so much. It sounds so daunting. No, I don't. I am not. Trust me. I've got enough to get by. , I don't have a safe room. , now when I lived in, , a bigger house, , I had, supplies on every level. I had supplies on my basement.
I had supplies on my main level. I had some supplies in the bedroom. I had go bags. What people don't think about, they think go bags. Oh, if there's a fire earthquake. No. What if, for instance, Trains are talking near you. And what I mean by that is what happens if there's some trains that collide or it overturns and it's got chemicals, they're going to relocate, they're going to evacuate a two mile square.
So if you live within two square miles of railroad tracks, you should have a go bag, just in [00:13:00] case there's some kind of spill or something gets in the area and you have to be, you have to be evacuated overnight to a shelter. So you want to, you know, have your clothes. Your medicine, your extra glasses, I always put in like sweats or stuff like that, and I'll put in like, you know, the light blanket, your toothbrush.
, I put in a few snacks, hand wipes, you know, , a book. I constantly tell people when you're packing for that kind of thing, put in a book of short stories. Like Sherlock Holmes or something so that that is short, but you may be sitting quite a bit. You may not have access to that Netflix.
 So those are the things I try to remind people games, bring cards, bring a pack of cards because likely. You're going to be okay because you were smart enough to have that billbook. You've evacuated. Now you're waiting. So you might not have electricity. So bring those things from the old times [00:14:00] and spend some time with your family.
Kellene: So let's switch gears here. Let's talk about apartment dwellers specifically. You've, you've touched on a couple of things, , go bags. ladder if you're, from the windows that are, , on the second floor. And , those are fairly easy to obtain and to install. And then I love the idea of having a fire blanket, nearby as well.
I'm going to make that modification myself. That's smart. What are some of their approaches to emergency planning that should be different from those in single family homes? 
Adele: Well, one 
thing 
Adele: is guess. Everybody's trying to make a little side hustle. They're doing Airbnb. They are maybe going away.
They're getting somebody to house sit for them or something like that. And what we inevitably forget to do is to tell them little idiosyncrasies. Now, if you're an apartment, if you're in a house, you're like, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you're an apartment building, You're putting [00:15:00] someone into a situation where they don't know where your safe refuge area is.
You should have a safe refuge area. If your building does not have one or you don't know where it is, ask your manager. If your manager looks at you blankly, pick your own. 300 feet away from your building. And the purpose of that is if there is fire, we know that it's going to blow out glass and that glass is going to go far.
So we want to be about 300 feet. We never want to be directly under a burning building because other things happen than the fire. You want to do that. You want to have a plan. How are you letting people know you're okay. I suggest when you go, if you're an apartment dweller and you go on a extended vacation and you have someone staying with you, you tell them these things and you show them where the exit is.
Do not assume they're going to know or they'll, hey, F A F O F A, [00:16:00] don't think that. Oh, they'll find it. There's signs. You know how many people, where do I go? People who have been in buildings for years and an alarm goes off or there's a real emergency and they're, they're looking around going, how do I get out of here?
Don't be those persons. Take your own safety into your own hands. 
Kellene: People don't tend to look up when they're dealing with a fire or something of that nature. They tend to be focused down. Same thing if there was a, if there was a mass shooting or something like that going on, people don't tend to look up.
So seeing those exit signs, you've got to pay attention to that ahead of time rather than later. 
Adele: Absolutely. And the way that I remind people of this is I say, okay, you know, you get on the airplane and I know you don't listen. I try to listen every time, even though I've heard it, but what I do do while she, while they are talking is I figure out, okay, where am I?
And I look and I count, you know, oh, okay, here's my exit. It's right here. [00:17:00] So then I can just have an idea. Okay. I'm like, I'm really close. I'm far. When I'm in a movie theater, I look around because the new movie theaters, you know, they have the stadium seating. Back in the day, sometimes you used to be able to have an exit behind the projection room.
Some do, and some don't. Look around. Where is your exits? Are they all in the front? Are they, you know, front and then around that back thing, the way that they've designed theaters? So, I always say there are evacuation signs. They're there for a reason. Take a moment to look at them. They're near almost every, I mean, in without fail at your elevator back elevators.
I love elevators and I hate elevators. Never use an elevator in an emergency situation. No reputable security person anywhere will say, Oh yeah, that's a good idea to use the elevator in an emergency. Elevators are notorious for [00:18:00] having their own minds. So I always say, that's why you want to know where those stairs are.
That's why you want to know what your plan is. The other thing is people get that part when there's an emergency, they want to save themselves. What they don't get is the drilling with the saving themselves. They kind of think, well, no, , I intellectually know what I'm supposed to do and lizard brain.
That's where it comes back. We have lizard brain. We will do what we did before. So do it, do it a couple of times. Go out and , just walk. You don't need to run. You don't need to act like anything exciting is happening. You don't, nobody needs to know you're doing it. As a matter of fact, I'm on, although it might be kind of cool if someone says, Hey, what are you doing?
Like, Hey, I'm doing my drill. You know, I'm doing my quarterly drill, whatever that is what you do. So think about it. You're safe refuge area. Who are you calling? What would you do? All you have to think is what would. You, if you, once you start thinking about it, [00:19:00] your brain will fill in the rest. You'll get interested.
You'll get an about what's happening with safety and boom, then you'll have that. It is not, it's like a superpower. It's a hidden superpower. It doesn't come up. You're not dude, you know, with the extinguisher, putting out the candles on the birthday cake. That's not what we're talking about here. We're not talking about the Uber.
Safety person. We're talking about a person who is looking at themselves, who is paying attention to what's around them, and who, if they see something, they need to say something. And that's very important, because people think about it in a law enforcement sense, but how many people step over spilled drinks, or other situations, or water that doesn't quite look right, they don't say anything, or you know, a machine that doesn't sound right.
Hey, find a security guard or concierge or somebody and say, Hey, you know, I just noticed this over here. You might want to take care of it. That's our standard of care because once we're aware of it, we must take care of it.
Kellene: All right. Let's ask about, you were [00:20:00] talking about technology, and how much technology we have available to us today.
How, what kind of innovative solutions are you seeing in high rise or apartment dwelling safety that excite you? 
Adele: Well, not a lot. Quite frankly, I wish there were more. When I, as a manager, I would look at systems and I'd be evaluating them, and inevitably, because of my background, I would always go back to the fire life safety, like, okay, what's your component?
How am I notifying my people? , how does it get delivered to them? , how do I notify them? How do they let me know they're safe? So these are systems, there are all kinds of, software or service that provide people. Different ways. They have beacons. High end buildings, we'll also use, if they have an app, there's some, larger property management companies, real estate companies that are also rolling it out on like portfolio basis for the larger, , residential apartments.
The money that was recently released over the last four years, , for the infrastructure bill has really [00:21:00] invigorated a lot of residential, construction because, people want to get on on the deal. I'm seeing the initial adherence to life safety protocols to get that CFO.
What I'm not seeing is the follow through by management to make sure That you're ever changing roster of tenants are trained and know what to do in emergency in the city of Los Angeles. If you live or work in a high rise building, that means a building over 75 feet. You must be trained in fire life safety protocols within 14 days of either coming to live with a bit of in the building or coming to work in the building.
Honestly, , that's does not happen. And we property managers would struggle with that. Another reason why I took up the banner. I look at it a little differently and I think about how I can motivate people to be safe rather than to scare them into being safe. 
Kellene: So let's switch some gears again here. Let's talk [00:22:00] about somebody who's moving into a high rise building or an apartment building.
What kind of questions should people be asking before moving into a high rise building? 
Adele: We 
don't ask enough questions. We ask, okay, where's the swimming pool? Where's the trash? You know, blah, blah, blah. A few things, how often they test their emergency systems because if it's a high rise building, now I'm not talking about the little squats and the dingbacks.
If they're under 75 feet, they do not have to do this. They're over. I'm talking high rise. They are mandated to do these things. And if they don't, if you live in a jurisdiction where they don't mandate it, they should be doing it. Anyway, and you want to know, because once you start asking those questions, that manager is going to be like, I guess I better check on when I do my next, when I do my next test.
So nobody asks in residential world, even in office, they don't come to me and go, Hey, when's the annual power down? Unless they're very sophisticated, they've got a lot of equipment [00:23:00] and they prepare for it. Right? So that's the first thing you want to know. How often do you train? Do you test your systems?
You want to know who's on duty at night? And who's the emergency contact and what the emergency evacuation procedures are. If it's a building and it's a building manager and management company worth salt, it will have these things, even if it's rudimentary and that will be okay. If it's rudimentary in a jurisdiction like New York or Los Angeles.
You have to have floor plans. You have to have a written plan. You have to have assigned staff members. That is, that's the reality. It's tough. People are running buildings with one manager instead of, you know, they don't have a, maybe a big staff, like an office building does. They don't have, dedicated engineering staff.
that helps the fire department if there is an issue with any equipment. So there are basic differences which means you really have to be more in tune with your safety if you're in a high rise apartment building than if [00:24:00] you're anywhere else. because it's more dangerous. People are cooking. People are lighting candles.
I do not recommend light, get a candle warmer, get the reed sticks and definitely do no open flames in an apartment building or a residential or a commercial building, even if it's not high rise, none. So Minimize the flame. Make sure that you're checking those cords. And if you're in cold weather locations, watch your heaters, make sure that you have tipping, you know, the tipping, um, technology so that you don't set things on fire.
It is heartbreaking to hear every holiday season, a family, Has lost their home and their gifts and everything because they, you know, you have your big tree and you got your, I remember cause okay. I almost set my house on fire like twice when I was five and once was the robe, the old nylon robes on the heater next to the tree.
And the gifts [00:25:00] we were like, I've seen far too many news stories where families aren't. 
Kellene: So Adele, what about renters in apartment buildings? What are those most important safety features that they should be looking for? 
Adele: You want to make sure that you're sprinklered. If you can, obviously, you know, legacy buildings might not have sprinklers.
Sprinklers are your after smoke to smoke alarms. They're your biggest protector. They're going to protect. That's why we're not going to have, you don't see many fires in sprinkler buildings. You want to make sure that you're going to ask those same questions. What, what kind of, you know, how often do we test, how, how often do we test, who are the night people, where is our safe refuge area, how do I let you know I'm okay, because the manager is going to be frantically trying to account for that.
For all of the residents. So that's one reason that's so difficult. You have to make these [00:26:00] plans to tell people to tell you because inevitably, when I have drills and in residential buildings, you know what happens, we tell them to go to the safe refuge area to check in. Well, let's see. Let me go get a frappe right now, because you know, why do I need to do that?
Because it's your home. It's a different thought. In work, you're like, what do I do? My boss needs to tell me what to do. You're at home. That's you, you and your family. So you need to make sure you need to let them know you're okay. Which is why you want to let anybody who houses for you know what to do so they can be okay.
So think about it. How many thousands of people right now are in apartments on Airbnbs or stays and the landlord or the manager has no idea those people are in there and those people have no idea what to do in an emergency? 
Kellene: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, let's ask about families with children or the elderly or those who have pets.
How can they best prepare for emergencies [00:27:00] in a high rise environment? 
Adele: Well, essentially, if you're the elderly or those that, need help, they need assistance, you have to let your manager know you need assistance. In a resident, they will try to get somebody again. They're going to be short of staff.
So you might this, Hey, community, reach out to your neighbors and let, find somebody like you , and let them ask them, will you assist me? In an emergency. Now, basic safety is when there's an emergency, we want the able body to leave first because they're able to do it. Just like the concept on the airplane where you put your mask on first because you can't help your child or anybody else if you get, if you are, compromised.
So you're, it's the same thing with people, , who need assistance. We want them to be the last people. They go to the stairwell and then go inside of the stairwell and they wait for everyone else to exit and then they [00:28:00] go. They can take their time. If they need assistance, that's when the helper comes in.
If, and the manager needs to know , and you can ask the manager to help source someone or the manager knows, Hey. Blah, blah, blah in 14 B needs assistance. They're up there to tell the fire personnel and they will go up and collect them. Same idea. They kind of wait, they wait on, they wait in the stairwell.
Remember rated stairwells. We build buildings for safety. Now, some better than others, but if it's a high rise building, it should have some standards and your stairwells are going to be your safe place. What I want to remind everyone in every situation is a stairwell is good. A safe stairwell is better.
If it's not safe, I don't want you going in it. 
Kellene: Okay, last question. What is the first thing that comes to your mind that people overlook the most in terms of safety in their apartment or high rise dwelling?
Adele: It's typically not knowing what [00:29:00] to do, not having a plan and knowing what to do as a plan.
That is absolutely the first thing they don't know. , we always get like one or two people, you know, they're the mavens that, you know, , they know everything. They know all the answers and I love them because I want to show other people that you can, you know, you can be into this, but I want to hear from the people that aren't sure.
I'm going to ask them, what do you think about this? What are you going to do? I want to correct any misconceptions you have from any popular film or television where they do a horrible job of depicting safety people. I've been in the room with LAPD, , media officers and I said, Hey, you know, Hollywood is just right over there.
Do you guys ever talk to them about like actually writing into the scripts, how things really go down? I mean, , 9 1 1's a great show, but it's,
sometimes I find myself yelling at the television frequently, that's not what you do! [00:30:00] It's very pretty.
Well, thank you so much, Adele, for all your knowledge. It's vast, and we barely even touched the surface of it, but I think awareness is just really critical. People just don't think about this in their high rise or their apartment living, circumstances. 
Adele: Absolutely. And 
it goes with you everywhere. So no matter where we are in different places, we move around, we travel, we're on vacation, whatnot.
You could, you could be in an Airbnb. Hey, you asked those questions. So what do I do? If there's an emergency, because it happens.
Kellene: Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much, Adele, for your expertise. Is there any way that you would like people to reach out to you, if they'd like more information of your expertise?
Adele: Absolutely. I'm on LinkedIn, Instagram, pro per associates. It's a mix of professional and personal. This is personal for me. This is, a bit of, a challenge, but I know with people like you out there, and I'm so happy to have found you that we can do it. 
[00:31:00] Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Adele. Take care and have a Merry Christmas.
You too. 
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